It's been awhile since I played this but earlier today, I was listening to a song I hadn't heard since I was ... well it was many years ago. 'Lita Ford and Ozzy Osbourne - Close My Eyes Forever' reminded me of that night in the penthouse in the tower with Mayhew. Just seemed weirdly appropriate.
Should be pretty easy. When you're in the coffee shop, express interest, do the hookup in the bathroom, do not pursue a relationship with Nick, and don't lie to Seth.
I had been waiting to play this and finally caved. Mayhew was a lot of fun for me to interact with personally. He embodies the phrase "there is no good or evil, only perspective and opinion". None of the characters do things for no reason (i.e. we're going to do this just to have a plot point). There's always a motivation behind it and it shows the thought you've put into their backgrounds. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me you have little stories or outlines written up somewhere to flesh out the characters while you're writing. I'm definitely looking forward to the end of the story and will probably end up with multiple playthroughs to try every path.
Your use of font shifting, such as italics, to provide emphasis during dialogue is a nice touch. It's a very overlooked, easily employed, tactic that a lot of VNs don't use and it really does make a huge difference.
Spoiler: I did cotton on to Santino pretty early (I recognized his arm). The look on my face was probably hilarious. I laughed in shock and I'm pretty sure the words out of my mouth were "oh shit!" Lol
As much as I adore Connor (he's such a free spirit, love him), is Ronan going to be an option at some point? Other than the scene in chapter 12 I mean. As a path option if you've told him you want him on his/your own terms.
Hi, i love the game. Just a question, how to unlock the striptease cg in chapter 6/hangover in chaper 7? I have tried different combinations but it always results in Nick leaving or having sex.
Absolutely. Originally, it was very easy to get the striptease but super difficult to get the sex scene. And a lot of people then didn't know how there even was a sex scene. Now, the striptease is in the odd sweet spot that is very hard to unlock. Anyway, here's how.
To unlock the striptease with Nick (as of Build 0.10b): You need to have a relationship score with him of 20 or 25, and a not so great score with Mayhew. To get that, pick "Resist" at the end of Chapter 3, then in chapters 5 and 6...
Pick "Why Me" or "Make an Appointment" at opening of Ch 5 (0 points);
then "Act Normal" or "Self-Deprecating" joke (+10);
"Avoid the conversation" (0 points);
"reject the feeling";
invite him to use the spare bed (+10 points).
That should keep the score with Mayhew low and get you 20 points with Nick to unlock the striptease.
I updated the game to the new version on android and it stopped in the same place where it stopped before. Connor and Alex together in bed. Did the update change something I need to play again?
Hi there! This update unlocks the alternate romance path with Nick. The next update after this will have a the route that is neither Nick or Connor, and then also pick up at the end of the previous two routes to wrap up the chapter. If you need help unlocking the Nick content, check out this post:
Yup! First, go to settings and preferences and enable skip on unseen text and after choices, then go back to the game and click "skip". You'll be on fast forward.
Can I ask what platform you're on and what the last version was that you played? This shouldn't be an issue for folks playing from the last update.
I'm really enjoying the game's story, it's certainly well-crafted and shows the developer's commitment.
But I just hate only bottom protagonists! There are several types of gays who play this type of game, you know? I'm on chapter 11 and apart from a single scene with Nick, there was no other moment where I could choose to be top or bottom!
A few people have given that feedback so later in the game there are more opportunities to top. There's one in Chapter 13 and another in the current update on Patreon which will be here middle of April.
My head canon of Alex is as a preferred bottom but I realized many people wanted to be able to top, some I'm writing starting to write those scenes as well.
Glad you're enjoying the story, and thanks for the feedback!
I'm not exactly criticizing the game because I really like the story. It's more like a frustration, because in your game there are many characters that I would like to be a top, but i cant . And I feel like most gay games, the main protagonists are always bottoms!
I'm glad you're doing scenes where we can choose. Thanks for reply!
Not at all! It was measured, constructive and told me clearly what you'd like to see if I was able to include it. Easy!
One thing I have learned (from attempting one scene to try to give everyone a little something, which was mentally exhausting and delayed progress significantly) is I'm not going to be able to please everyone all the time. But, after thinking about it and adjusting some character concepts around the edges, it is something I've been able to start building into the game on current and future scenes.
And, frankly, for those who see their Alex as more Dom, it is appropriate (even if there are Dom bottoms, too). 😂
Seriously, thanks for the feedback and engagement. Hope you enjoy the scene in Chapter 13!
I imagine it must be exhausting to always have someone complaining about something or wanting more things in the game. But for what it's worth, the game is certainly very well developed and the connections you made about Aaron Burr and Hamilton with Mayhew's past were fantastic and interesting . Your conception of 'elders' makes me want to know more about them. It is already something very positive if we compare it with more than half of the games of the type.
Unfortunately I didn't see the scene in question in chapter 13. I saw one in chapter 12 with Ronan, I don't know if you're talking about that one. My chapter 13 was all about Mayhew. Maybe I'm confusing too 😂. I was paying close attention to the game to look at the chapter.
Hi, first of all, i LOVE the story. So far i'm leaning towards both Connor even tho May has my heart ahaha. My questions are, when will the next update be here and how do we put it? Is it gonna be directly in the game or should we do something? It's my first time playing a game like this so i'm not sure how to do it with the next update since my game is up to the date for now.
Hi there! So glad you're loving the story. I'm a solo developer so updates aren't on a fixed schedule and rather happen when they're ready, but I just released the next update to Patrons for Early Access, and it will come here to Itch on April 15.
Generally with new updates, you just download and either extract the files (PC and Mac) or install it (Android), and the game will automatically find your old save games. On PC and Mac, you can delete the previous version of the game. For Android, it should install on top of the previous version. I hope that helps!
Just finished playing the new update and it was so good!! (ɔ◔‿◔)ɔ ♥I loved both paths at the beginning. Maxine is my queen I love her so much! (´,,•ω•,,)♡And Paolos interaction was fun and I regret that I love him so much that I choose the ‘’Fuck off,kitty’’ last because ‘’Kit-Kat’’ and ‘’one cum-dump away from being replaced’’took me out lmao(Ｔ▽Ｔ)Seth reintroduction worked really well in my opinion.Like I get why he did it but he still lied so I’m hella conflicted(.┰ω┰.)The Connor romance scenes were so cute and adorable (>//v//<)I loved learning more about him!
All and all amazing job yet again and I can’t wait for the next update!
Thank you so much for giving us Connor's path! Since the beginning I've felt Nick had greater chemistry with Ronan so I wanted to get them back together. Plus, Connor quoting Whitman after a bathroom quickie made me fall for him lol
im curies big ask considering the multiple paths your able to take is there anyway that im not seeing were you can name each save? cuse its hard to keep track which rout brlongs to which pic connor mathew or ronno so on
On PC and Mac, you can edit the name of a save game from the save menu. Unfortunately that's not an option on Android, so I suggest trying to use different pages.
Hmm. I don't want to get into spoilers here on Itch for a release that is still in Early Access but... that's not what Connor said. In fact, in his response to one potential choices, he says something quite the opposite. But, if you're insisting on an exclusive relationship with Alex after a quick hook-up in a bathroom, yeah, he's not going for that and I don't think it'd be realistic to expect it. While you can start down a path that eventually leads to a monogamous relationship with Connor, you're going to have to start where he is and not expect him to immediately conform to your demands. Sorry if that's a disappointment for you or anyone else.
That's... odd. I've never encountered an option (outside of the coffee shop) where anything other than a three-way with Seth was what's offered. I don't like Seth so that's never happening. And even Mayhew says those two are enjoying themselves so I just figured that route was closed.
Hmm. You're the second person to say that. With past releases, it's usually been a storage issue on the device, but in this case I would say go to my Patreon page and download it from the public links available there (Mega or Media Fire). I'll try to re-upload the android file here sometime soon though and perhaps that will fix it.
I hope Google translate worked for me. Four endings are planned but I haven't disclosed what those might mean for what Alex can become.
Espero que o Google Tradutor tenha funcionado para mim. Quatro finais estão planejados, mas não revelei o que eles podem significar para o que Alex pode se tornar.
I played a lot of gay games but this is incredible. One of few greatest I've played. Everything here is awesome, especially the action-horror story is amazing and the sex scenes are extremelly turning on. So that I've had a dizzy. I'm glad that there is no straight or bi sex shown in the game. I'm looking forward to play the rest of BBN :)
I'm so glad you got it to work and enjoyed it! I've tried to do something different with the story and am so glad when people discover BBN and have this kind of reaction. ❤️
Pleasure is all mine :) Your game have my highest notes in every category.
I finished playing 2 days ago but I steel have the images before my eyes and I'm thinking of it constantly. The sex scenes are nearly perfect (the only thing is that it is pity that in threesome Conors cum is wasted...).
I hope that in completed game will be no straight or bi sex couse it would have been for me much disappointing.
Now I could donated You only 10 bucks here on Itch (witch I did) and I know I isn't much but I hope I will be able to donate You more soon :)
I'm sorry you're having that trouble. If you're having an issue downloading the files from Itch, that's probably something that needs to be directed to Itch's support team (support@Itch.io). What I can recommend based on others experience though is trying to download via the links on my Patreon page. If you're downloading to an android, ensure you have enough available storage.
I really loved this update with Mayhew! Even more than with Ronan (who was my favourite LI) I did not really trust him (I still don't) but after this chapter he has become the best developed charater in my opinion. I really like everything about him, except for the posibility of becoming one more of his possessions. I never thought I'd say this, but he would be amazing as a main love interest, since he is one of the most interesting characters. The problem is that I don't want the MC to become yet another one of his minions. I wish there was a love route with him where you ended up becoming an elder to be with him as an equal, even if it became morally gray at times (elders play by different rules after all!). Cherry on top would be Mayhew gifting Ronan to be our faithful pet.
Keep up the great work. This update has convinced me to support on patreon, perhaps next month or in February when I get paid again, since I am still paying for all the christmas presents and food!
Ahhhhh literally this!!!I have such a soft spot for a polt like ,,a vampire that hasn't felt love for centuries and is convinced that they can't suddenly is all silent panic over the realization that they have in fact fallen in love"<3
And I know that's probably unlikely to happen cuz this isn't technically a romance game but a bestie can dream (Ｔ▽Ｔ)
Love hearing this feedback from both of you! As the nominal antagonist in BBN, writing Mayhew is always a challenge. Striking a balance between menace and allure with a backstory that contains a fair amount of dark choices but still has a bit of moral ambiguity to it. But I spent a lot of time thinking about and researching his backstory, and it was fun to put a lot of it out there in this chapter. So glad you loved it.
Love this game! And now I shall wait for Act 2 to be finished to then replay this game (I'm very patient, I know).
Seeing the Connor/Alex/Seth scene give me hope that in the future poly/open relationship is possible. And Ronan is such an arrogant bastard, I hope the good doctor manage to tear down his walls and possibly date him or get him and Nick back together, or at the very least get him as far away from Luke as possible. Speaking of Nick, the font confused me at first and thought that his name is Mick and I was like "what?" Lol.
At any rate, I shall come back to this page once in a blue moon to see if Act 2 is finished (obviously won't be any time soon lol) and to avoid spoilers as much as possible. Great game. 10 out of wolf dick would get knotted again.
So glad you liked it! Poly/open is kind of the default as fundamentally this is not a dating game, but I am looking at adding two possible monogomy routes. Not better or worse, just a different path for those who want it.
This game is awesome! Engaging story and characters everywhere you go. Will there be a harem route or you keeping it monogamous or friends with benefits situation?
I'm just now looking at implementing an optional monogomy route with a couple of characters, so it will mostly remain open but there are a couple of characters how, if you're "faithful", you'll get a slightly different ending. Not better or worse, I hope, but different.
I was sympathetic to Ronan, up until about chapter 10.
Now obviously Luke and Ronan are meant to be your morally ambiguous 'for the greater good' type antagonists, or at least, that's how their actions are framed. Up until chapter 10, I even believed that I might have the rug pulled out from under me and things weren't so black and white as they seemed. Obviously, there's some wider public benefit to the whole 'creatures' thing being kept under wraps, but ultimately it does serve Mayhew's own goals. But Ronan? Whose goal is (apart from Mayhew's whole... deal) Nick's safety and happiness? The man who is violently opposed to the idea of sacrificing a single life?
Yeah, dude, I get there's a whole vampire elder mind-control issue going on, but there's a whole lack of remorse for the things you've done willingly. I don't see anyone really letting that slide any time soon, especially not Nick.
I could be wrong about all of this, of course. There is dialogue about getting Nick and Ronan back together (or at least trying). And there's still plenty of rug left to pull. Happened with the truth about our good Italian doctor. Genuinely did not see that one coming.
Honestly, very impressed with what's been happening so far. The major characters all have solid enough motivations (my 'review' of his character, aka personality, is not my opinion of the character itself), the story is well-paced and picks off loose threads in a way that doesn't feel forced (e.g., how does Nick know about vampires; established early on, partly cleared up in chapter 11). All in all, eagerly awaiting the next chapter!
Thanks for writing this and so glad you're enjoying it! There are always pro-vampire or pro-human sentiments, but Ronan's character seems to inspire the most divergent views, which I'm enjoying. We all view characters through the prisms of our own experiences and if I've managed to write these characters with enough depth that people are drawing different conclusions, I feel like that's a success! I know who he is, but it's a lot of fun for me to see how others are interpreting what they've seen so far. Not saying you're wrong or right (or that there is a wrong or right; people are complicated), but I love reading it. Thank you for sharing!
Chapter 13 will go public in about a week, which is almost entirely a 1-on-1 with Luke Mayhew. I wonder if it'll change any views!
So, character-wise, assuming that everything Luke said, for every question Alex asked, he told the truth, it would seem he's quite the tragic guy. But of course, Mayhew knows how to twist the truth - he's an Elder. So it's possible it's a half-truth, meant to allay Alex's curiosity, much like Alex can only half-promise to work with Mayhew.
As a person, when it comes to 'bad things for the right reasons,' in real life, these things are pretty cut and dry for me. Luke speaks of not wanting to become a monster, and even admits that he's always on the edge. He's hot, and charming, and tragic, which means he's perfect for a lot of people, but I wouldn't say he's for me.
Now as characters, the layers you added in this chapter are wonderful, for Ronan and for Mayhew. Every answer was well-written, and for that, developer, I commend you. It's difficult to write characters like Mayhew, and even more difficult to make them convincing. I genuinely believe that Mayhew believes he's doing what's best, and I can see how he'd get people on his side - how he'd get us, the player on his side. You've definitely moved the needle a little bit on my part, and I am genuinely loving the conflict I'm feeling when I'm playing through his scenes.
I'm very happy to hear all of that, actually! Honestly what's tricky is letting people have the option of drawing both conclusions: that he's evil and can't be trusted, or they would probably do the same in his shoes so he's not that bad. It's been a lot of fun reading the range of reactions and they're all fair. One of the themes I want to explore with BBN is how we choose to respond to people even when we KNOW we're being manipulated...but maybe we want to be.
is there a guide for every cg? i feel like i have used 30 hours just trying to unlock a few on chapter 6 and 7 cuz i want to see all of them.
but i cant seem to find the ways to open them so i'm guessing it's got to do with options made beforehand and i cant seem to get the right combinations down for them
There are a couple of bugs keeping a few images from unlocking. Those are fixed in the next release which I'll hopefully have done in the next week or two.
also love the story but i think i would had liked to see a more heartfelt moment when santino showed up at the door like a tear falling down alex's cheek to show how hard the betrayel was or a shortness of breath to alarm santino that the lies and betrayel was maybe more then alex could handle? i dont know ... something more then just a bit of anger
Some of that will be in the next update as the last of the options with his "Surprise" at the end of Chapter 12 is unlocked. But I hear you! Hoping to have more of that with Act 2 as the story switches gears to Alex learning more on his own rather than relying on others to tell him.
I'm not a doctor, so I can't comment on most of the medical stuff here... but I do have a degree in psychology, and when Alex describes the symptoms of PTSD as possibly being a tumor and definitely not psychological? That just... doesn't make sense. What's up with that? Is it just because Alex doesn't have a psych background and doesn't know what PTSD is about?
Edit/PS, actually if you could give me a quote about the text you're finding problematic, that would be amazing, as would any suggestions on fixing it. I'm searching the script for "trauma" and "PTSD" and have so far not been able to find this. So if you can help me understand a little better what part of the script jumped out at you like this, that would be a huge help. Thanks!
It does not mention trauma or PTSD in the text, because apparently Alex is completely unaware of these concepts despite being a doctor. But that's exactly what was described with Alex's symptoms. But yes, it's Alex's internal monologue.
Hey there. Since I'm not 100% certain what part(s) of the story you're referencing, I workshopped this a little on Discord. Are you referring to Alex's internal thoughts the day after (eg, panic attacks, etc)? If so, I'll take another look at that but if you could let me know in particular what was troublesome to you, that will help.
bro i think that mayhew/luca its kinda similar to an argentinian actor called nicolas furtado, check his instagram @furtadonico and see what i am talking about
So, I've just done a playthrough from scratch and it all worked as intended. Are you getting this screen at the end of Chapter 11? If not, your relationship with Nick isn't high enough.
"I want you..." unlocks the "I wanted Nick..." option.
"Ronan still has your heart." unlocks the "He deserved to be with Nick" option.
"Keep it as friends." unlocks the "I wanted a relationship on our terms..." option.
Yup. As long as you have a good relationship with Nick, this dialogue should come up in Chapter 11. The point being Nick needs to have some respect for Alex and care about his opinion. You can lose that respect if you're taking a pro-Mayhew stance or don't stand up for Seth when Ronan says he wants to take out of Alex's apartment.
just saw the Ronnia comments yay to a fix, cuse i was hopeing to submit to the werewolf lad can you walk me through the sound follow good or bad choice maby a visual to go with im never sure if the vamp is happy or not with my choice
So, I've purposefully decided to keep the relationship scores hidden, although there is a walkthrough here on Itch that will take you through Chapter 11. Generally, though, I'm not trying to hide much with Mayhew (aka the vampire). If you're polite, accept what he's offering and don't resist, you'll develop a good relationship with him. If you talk back or try to provoke him, you'll piss him off. In Build 0.8, I introduced what I'm calling the "Bell Tolls" mechanic, in which you can only really piss him off so many times before he loses patience and Alex loses... something more.
Hey. I think I figured out the issue and some of it was a misunderstanding of the question on my part. I just updated the Walkthrough, but you can also find an answer on Twitter and in a new post here.
Yes. To be frank, this was bad design on my part and I'm going to fix it in the next update, but to unlock it in this build you have to say you don't want to have sex with shifted werewolves. It was a dumb decision on my part; originally, the big new thing here was going to be the option to hook up with a fully shifted Ronan, but as I wrote that, I wanted something for folks who didn't want the monster-"lover" route. So, I wrote and rendered that. But, of course, there is no reason it shouldn't be available to everyone, so I'll fix that.
Question: When you selected "no werewolf sex" and you got to that scene, were both options locked off? Or was it still just the "human" option that was locked off?
So, I may know what's going on and I may have misunderstood which choice you were referring to. I had a couple people on Discord test this for me and also looked over the code. I posted something on Twitter that should help clarify the choices and what's going on (link). I'd write it here on Itch but I'm not sure what the rules are here on how explicit I can be, but I'll try. Here is a summary of the options and what needs to happen for them:
___ yourself with ______. -- This option is available only if you said you you did not want to see wolfy-bits. You had two opportunities to say "no". The first was with Connor in the coffee shop. The second was less obvious, but was with Nick and Ronan in the sewers in Chapter 10. If you did not express interest with Connor, or chose to have Nick not take a closer look at Ronan's "bits", then this should be the option you get.
Submit and ask him to _______. -- This is the monster-"lover" route in which he will shift to a full werewolf and have his way with you. This option is available only if you expressed interest with Connor AND had Nick take a look at Ronan's bits in Chapter 10.
____ him off. -- This is available for everyone.
Order him to let you ________. -- This is greyed out for everyone and is coming in the next update.
Release him. -- This is available for everyone
Leave him -- This is available for everyone.
In the next update, I'll unlock #1 for everyone. It was a bad coding decision on my part. I've also redone the menu/choices in the Nick/Ronan scene in Chapter 10 to clarify what the choice means.
I recently had the pleasure of playing the scene you made for RanliLabz. It's excellent. I hope to be able to enjoy the next chapter of your story soon.
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It's been awhile since I played this but earlier today, I was listening to a song I hadn't heard since I was ... well it was many years ago. 'Lita Ford and Ozzy Osbourne - Close My Eyes Forever' reminded me of that night in the penthouse in the tower with Mayhew. Just seemed weirdly appropriate.
I'll have the check out that song!
How would I be able to have Connors path because I honestly felt the most chemistry of the character so far with Connor(maybe Santino?)
Should be pretty easy. When you're in the coffee shop, express interest, do the hookup in the bathroom, do not pursue a relationship with Nick, and don't lie to Seth.
I had been waiting to play this and finally caved. Mayhew was a lot of fun for me to interact with personally. He embodies the phrase "there is no good or evil, only perspective and opinion". None of the characters do things for no reason (i.e. we're going to do this just to have a plot point). There's always a motivation behind it and it shows the thought you've put into their backgrounds. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me you have little stories or outlines written up somewhere to flesh out the characters while you're writing. I'm definitely looking forward to the end of the story and will probably end up with multiple playthroughs to try every path.
Your use of font shifting, such as italics, to provide emphasis during dialogue is a nice touch. It's a very overlooked, easily employed, tactic that a lot of VNs don't use and it really does make a huge difference.
Spoiler: I did cotton on to Santino pretty early (I recognized his arm). The look on my face was probably hilarious. I laughed in shock and I'm pretty sure the words out of my mouth were "oh shit!" Lol
Love this and that you enjoyed the story and the characters! Thank you so much. ❤️
As much as I adore Connor (he's such a free spirit, love him), is Ronan going to be an option at some point? Other than the scene in chapter 12 I mean. As a path option if you've told him you want him on his/your own terms.
That is my plan, yes, with two possible routes for Ronan: one with Nick, and one with Alex. (Well, and I guess a third, with Ronan alone.)
Yay! 💜
Hi, i love the game. Just a question, how to unlock the striptease cg in chapter 6/hangover in chaper 7? I have tried different combinations but it always results in Nick leaving or having sex.
Thanks in advance!
Absolutely. Originally, it was very easy to get the striptease but super difficult to get the sex scene. And a lot of people then didn't know how there even was a sex scene. Now, the striptease is in the odd sweet spot that is very hard to unlock. Anyway, here's how.
To unlock the striptease with Nick (as of Build 0.10b): You need to have a relationship score with him of 20 or 25, and a not so great score with Mayhew. To get that, pick "Resist" at the end of Chapter 3, then in chapters 5 and 6...
Pick "Why Me" or "Make an Appointment" at opening of Ch 5 (0 points);
then "Act Normal" or "Self-Deprecating" joke (+10);
"Avoid the conversation" (0 points);
"reject the feeling";
invite him to use the spare bed (+10 points).
That should keep the score with Mayhew low and get you 20 points with Nick to unlock the striptease.
I updated the game to the new version on android and it stopped in the same place where it stopped before. Connor and Alex together in bed. Did the update change something I need to play again?
Hi there! This update unlocks the alternate romance path with Nick. The next update after this will have a the route that is neither Nick or Connor, and then also pick up at the end of the previous two routes to wrap up the chapter. If you need help unlocking the Nick content, check out this post:
https://boundbynight.itch.io/bbn-vn/devlog/516189/latest-update-now-public-chapt...
Is there a way i can skip to the updated version??? because my data and saves are gone
Yup! First, go to settings and preferences and enable skip on unseen text and after choices, then go back to the game and click "skip". You'll be on fast forward.
Can I ask what platform you're on and what the last version was that you played? This shouldn't be an issue for folks playing from the last update.
tysm and I’m on window but I reset my computer so the saved data got lost lol
I'm really enjoying the game's story, it's certainly well-crafted and shows the developer's commitment.
But I just hate only bottom protagonists! There are several types of gays who play this type of game, you know? I'm on chapter 11 and apart from a single scene with Nick, there was no other moment where I could choose to be top or bottom!
At least the story of the game kept me playing
A few people have given that feedback so later in the game there are more opportunities to top. There's one in Chapter 13 and another in the current update on Patreon which will be here middle of April.
My head canon of Alex is as a preferred bottom but I realized many people wanted to be able to top, some I'm writing starting to write those scenes as well.
Glad you're enjoying the story, and thanks for the feedback!
Wow, I'm glad you weren't mad about the comment.
I'm not exactly criticizing the game because I really like the story. It's more like a frustration, because in your game there are many characters that I would like to be a top, but i cant . And I feel like most gay games, the main protagonists are always bottoms!
I'm glad you're doing scenes where we can choose. Thanks for reply!
Not at all! It was measured, constructive and told me clearly what you'd like to see if I was able to include it. Easy!
One thing I have learned (from attempting one scene to try to give everyone a little something, which was mentally exhausting and delayed progress significantly) is I'm not going to be able to please everyone all the time. But, after thinking about it and adjusting some character concepts around the edges, it is something I've been able to start building into the game on current and future scenes.
And, frankly, for those who see their Alex as more Dom, it is appropriate (even if there are Dom bottoms, too). 😂
Seriously, thanks for the feedback and engagement. Hope you enjoy the scene in Chapter 13!
I imagine it must be exhausting to always have someone complaining about something or wanting more things in the game. But for what it's worth, the game is certainly very well developed and the connections you made about Aaron Burr and Hamilton with Mayhew's past were fantastic and interesting . Your conception of 'elders' makes me want to know more about them. It is already something very positive if we compare it with more than half of the games of the type.
Unfortunately I didn't see the scene in question in chapter 13. I saw one in chapter 12 with Ronan, I don't know if you're talking about that one. My chapter 13 was all about Mayhew. Maybe I'm confusing too 😂. I was paying close attention to the game to look at the chapter.
Ah, sorry, it was chapter 12 with Ronan. They blur together for me! I just didnt want to spoil who with or where.
Really engaging story, and kudos for supporting United24.
Hi, first of all, i LOVE the story. So far i'm leaning towards both Connor even tho May has my heart ahaha. My questions are, when will the next update be here and how do we put it? Is it gonna be directly in the game or should we do something? It's my first time playing a game like this so i'm not sure how to do it with the next update since my game is up to the date for now.
Awsome story, can't wait for more!!
Hi there! So glad you're loving the story. I'm a solo developer so updates aren't on a fixed schedule and rather happen when they're ready, but I just released the next update to Patrons for Early Access, and it will come here to Itch on April 15.
Generally with new updates, you just download and either extract the files (PC and Mac) or install it (Android), and the game will automatically find your old save games. On PC and Mac, you can delete the previous version of the game. For Android, it should install on top of the previous version. I hope that helps!
thank you for replying and explaning! have a nice day
Bound by Night VN no futuro vai ter um final com o ronan
Ele e meu personagem favorito😁
Spoilers!
Just finished playing the new update and it was so good!! (ɔ◔‿◔)ɔ ♥I loved both paths at the beginning. Maxine is my queen I love her so much! (´,,•ω•,,)♡And Paolos interaction was fun and I regret that I love him so much that I choose the ‘’Fuck off,kitty’’ last because ‘’Kit-Kat’’ and ‘’one cum-dump away from being replaced’’took me out lmao(Ｔ▽Ｔ)Seth reintroduction worked really well in my opinion.Like I get why he did it but he still lied so I’m hella conflicted(.┰ω┰.)The Connor romance scenes were so cute and adorable (>//v//<)I loved learning more about him!
All and all amazing job yet again and I can’t wait for the next update!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Maxine makes a small cameo in Chapter 1.
Yeah I think she was the woman in the hotel lobby but I'm blind as hell so I don't know if she has appeared anywhere else lol
Thank you so much for giving us Connor's path! Since the beginning I've felt Nick had greater chemistry with Ronan so I wanted to get them back together. Plus, Connor quoting Whitman after a bathroom quickie made me fall for him lol
You may be the first person to mention that quote! Yay! ❤️
im curies big ask considering the multiple paths your able to take is there anyway that im not seeing were you can name each save? cuse its hard to keep track which rout brlongs to which pic connor mathew or ronno so on
On PC and Mac, you can edit the name of a save game from the save menu. Unfortunately that's not an option on Android, so I suggest trying to use different pages.
oh stuck in winter snowstorm on my days off wishing i had the new update sigh.
Just a couple more days!
i know just sad cuse its on the day i go back to work so wont really be able to enjoy it till next weakened
public update coming soon?
It's coming at the end of the month :D
Yup! Just one more week!
Unfortunate about Connor. He decided he wanted that detestable Seth more than you without being a third wheel. I liked him, omega or not.
Hmm. I don't want to get into spoilers here on Itch for a release that is still in Early Access but... that's not what Connor said. In fact, in his response to one potential choices, he says something quite the opposite. But, if you're insisting on an exclusive relationship with Alex after a quick hook-up in a bathroom, yeah, he's not going for that and I don't think it'd be realistic to expect it. While you can start down a path that eventually leads to a monogamous relationship with Connor, you're going to have to start where he is and not expect him to immediately conform to your demands. Sorry if that's a disappointment for you or anyone else.
That's... odd. I've never encountered an option (outside of the coffee shop) where anything other than a three-way with Seth was what's offered. I don't like Seth so that's never happening. And even Mayhew says those two are enjoying themselves so I just figured that route was closed.
when will the next public update come out?
Probably about one month. Should have it out to Patrons in the next day or two.
looking foward to next moth
I'm having trouble with downloading the android version it may just be my phone just wondering if something is wrong with the file
Hmm. You're the second person to say that. With past releases, it's usually been a storage issue on the device, but in this case I would say go to my Patreon page and download it from the public links available there (Mega or Media Fire). I'll try to re-upload the android file here sometime soon though and perhaps that will fix it.
great thank you so much I most definitely will 😊!
E também lembrando que o jogo está ótimo, estou esperando a nova atualização 🥰
Não sei se alguém já sabe, mais poderiam me informar no que o personagem principal vai se transformar
I hope Google translate worked for me. Four endings are planned but I haven't disclosed what those might mean for what Alex can become.
Espero que o Google Tradutor tenha funcionado para mim. Quatro finais estão planejados, mas não revelei o que eles podem significar para o que Alex pode se tornar.
obrigado era só uma dúvida mesmo
I played a lot of gay games but this is incredible. One of few greatest I've played. Everything here is awesome, especially the action-horror story is amazing and the sex scenes are extremelly turning on. So that I've had a dizzy. I'm glad that there is no straight or bi sex shown in the game. I'm looking forward to play the rest of BBN :)
I'm so glad you got it to work and enjoyed it! I've tried to do something different with the story and am so glad when people discover BBN and have this kind of reaction. ❤️
Pleasure is all mine :) Your game have my highest notes in every category.
I finished playing 2 days ago but I steel have the images before my eyes and I'm thinking of it constantly. The sex scenes are nearly perfect (the only thing is that it is pity that in threesome Conors cum is wasted...).
I hope that in completed game will be no straight or bi sex couse it would have been for me much disappointing.
Now I could donated You only 10 bucks here on Itch (witch I did) and I know I isn't much but I hope I will be able to donate You more soon :)
I'm sorry you're having that trouble. If you're having an issue downloading the files from Itch, that's probably something that needs to be directed to Itch's support team (support@Itch.io). What I can recommend based on others experience though is trying to download via the links on my Patreon page. If you're downloading to an android, ensure you have enough available storage.
Ok, It works! I play it right now and so far it is great :)
I really loved this update with Mayhew! Even more than with Ronan (who was my favourite LI) I did not really trust him (I still don't) but after this chapter he has become the best developed charater in my opinion. I really like everything about him, except for the posibility of becoming one more of his possessions. I never thought I'd say this, but he would be amazing as a main love interest, since he is one of the most interesting characters. The problem is that I don't want the MC to become yet another one of his minions. I wish there was a love route with him where you ended up becoming an elder to be with him as an equal, even if it became morally gray at times (elders play by different rules after all!). Cherry on top would be Mayhew gifting Ronan to be our faithful pet.
Keep up the great work. This update has convinced me to support on patreon, perhaps next month or in February when I get paid again, since I am still paying for all the christmas presents and food!
Ahhhhh literally this!!!I have such a soft spot for a polt like ,,a vampire that hasn't felt love for centuries and is convinced that they can't suddenly is all silent panic over the realization that they have in fact fallen in love"<3
And I know that's probably unlikely to happen cuz this isn't technically a romance game but a bestie can dream (Ｔ▽Ｔ)
Love hearing this feedback from both of you! As the nominal antagonist in BBN, writing Mayhew is always a challenge. Striking a balance between menace and allure with a backstory that contains a fair amount of dark choices but still has a bit of moral ambiguity to it. But I spent a lot of time thinking about and researching his backstory, and it was fun to put a lot of it out there in this chapter. So glad you loved it.
Love this game! And now I shall wait for Act 2 to be finished to then replay this game (I'm very patient, I know).
Seeing the Connor/Alex/Seth scene give me hope that in the future poly/open relationship is possible. And Ronan is such an arrogant bastard, I hope the good doctor manage to tear down his walls and possibly date him or get him and Nick back together, or at the very least get him as far away from Luke as possible. Speaking of Nick, the font confused me at first and thought that his name is Mick and I was like "what?" Lol.
At any rate, I shall come back to this page once in a blue moon to see if Act 2 is finished (obviously won't be any time soon lol) and to avoid spoilers as much as possible. Great game. 10 out of wolf dick would get knotted again.
So glad you liked it! Poly/open is kind of the default as fundamentally this is not a dating game, but I am looking at adding two possible monogomy routes. Not better or worse, just a different path for those who want it.
Cheers!
OMG that's amazing. Thank you!
This game is awesome! Engaging story and characters everywhere you go. Will there be a harem route or you keeping it monogamous or friends with benefits situation?
Thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying it.
I'm just now looking at implementing an optional monogomy route with a couple of characters, so it will mostly remain open but there are a couple of characters how, if you're "faithful", you'll get a slightly different ending. Not better or worse, I hope, but different.
I was sympathetic to Ronan, up until about chapter 10.
Now obviously Luke and Ronan are meant to be your morally ambiguous 'for the greater good' type antagonists, or at least, that's how their actions are framed. Up until chapter 10, I even believed that I might have the rug pulled out from under me and things weren't so black and white as they seemed. Obviously, there's some wider public benefit to the whole 'creatures' thing being kept under wraps, but ultimately it does serve Mayhew's own goals. But Ronan? Whose goal is (apart from Mayhew's whole... deal) Nick's safety and happiness? The man who is violently opposed to the idea of sacrificing a single life?
Yeah, dude, I get there's a whole
vampireelder mind-control issue going on, but there's a whole lack of remorse for the things you've done willingly. I don't see anyone really letting that slide any time soon, especially not Nick.I could be wrong about all of this, of course. There is dialogue about getting Nick and Ronan back together (or at least trying). And there's still plenty of rug left to pull. Happened with the truth about our good Italian doctor. Genuinely did not see that one coming.
Honestly, very impressed with what's been happening so far. The major characters all have solid enough motivations (my 'review' of his character, aka personality, is not my opinion of the character itself), the story is well-paced and picks off loose threads in a way that doesn't feel forced (e.g., how does Nick know about vampires; established early on, partly cleared up in chapter 11). All in all, eagerly awaiting the next chapter!
Thanks for writing this and so glad you're enjoying it! There are always pro-vampire or pro-human sentiments, but Ronan's character seems to inspire the most divergent views, which I'm enjoying. We all view characters through the prisms of our own experiences and if I've managed to write these characters with enough depth that people are drawing different conclusions, I feel like that's a success! I know who he is, but it's a lot of fun for me to see how others are interpreting what they've seen so far. Not saying you're wrong or right (or that there is a wrong or right; people are complicated), but I love reading it. Thank you for sharing!
Chapter 13 will go public in about a week, which is almost entirely a 1-on-1 with Luke Mayhew. I wonder if it'll change any views!
Probably not in my case, but I'm willing to see what he'll try to convince me 😉
So, I'm curious and have to ask... if you've played Chapter 13 yet, did it move the needle?
I haven't yet, as I've been busy, but I do have the update downloaded and ready to go! I'll report back once I have, though!
Just finished Chapter 13!
So, character-wise, assuming that everything Luke said, for every question Alex asked, he told the truth, it would seem he's quite the tragic guy. But of course, Mayhew knows how to twist the truth - he's an Elder. So it's possible it's a half-truth, meant to allay Alex's curiosity, much like Alex can only half-promise to work with Mayhew.
As a person, when it comes to 'bad things for the right reasons,' in real life, these things are pretty cut and dry for me. Luke speaks of not wanting to become a monster, and even admits that he's always on the edge. He's hot, and charming, and tragic, which means he's perfect for a lot of people, but I wouldn't say he's for me.
Now as characters, the layers you added in this chapter are wonderful, for Ronan and for Mayhew. Every answer was well-written, and for that, developer, I commend you. It's difficult to write characters like Mayhew, and even more difficult to make them convincing. I genuinely believe that Mayhew believes he's doing what's best, and I can see how he'd get people on his side - how he'd get us, the player on his side. You've definitely moved the needle a little bit on my part, and I am genuinely loving the conflict I'm feeling when I'm playing through his scenes.
I'm very happy to hear all of that, actually! Honestly what's tricky is letting people have the option of drawing both conclusions: that he's evil and can't be trusted, or they would probably do the same in his shoes so he's not that bad. It's been a lot of fun reading the range of reactions and they're all fair. One of the themes I want to explore with BBN is how we choose to respond to people even when we KNOW we're being manipulated...but maybe we want to be.
is there a guide for every cg? i feel like i have used 30 hours just trying to unlock a few on chapter 6 and 7 cuz i want to see all of them.
but i cant seem to find the ways to open them so i'm guessing it's got to do with options made beforehand and i cant seem to get the right combinations down for them
There are a couple of bugs keeping a few images from unlocking. Those are fixed in the next release which I'll hopefully have done in the next week or two.
ahh fair enough :)
also love the story but i think i would had liked to see a more heartfelt moment when santino showed up at the door like a tear falling down alex's cheek to show how hard the betrayel was or a shortness of breath to alarm santino that the lies and betrayel was maybe more then alex could handle? i dont know ... something more then just a bit of anger
I just finish the game in less than 12 hours, love it and Mayhew is so hot! More of him please on next update.
Wow! I love that it's almost at 12 hours!!!
Yes, this next update is nearly all Mayhew and Alex. Working on renders for the last scene now.
Thanks for the reply. Can't wait!
Love the game and the storyline is great. I just wish that we get to explore Alex's dominant side too.
Some of that will be in the next update as the last of the options with his "Surprise" at the end of Chapter 12 is unlocked. But I hear you! Hoping to have more of that with Act 2 as the story switches gears to Alex learning more on his own rather than relying on others to tell him.
I'm not a doctor, so I can't comment on most of the medical stuff here... but I do have a degree in psychology, and when Alex describes the symptoms of PTSD as possibly being a tumor and definitely not psychological? That just... doesn't make sense. What's up with that? Is it just because Alex doesn't have a psych background and doesn't know what PTSD is about?
Hmm. Which chapter is that? I'll take a look.
Edit/PS, actually if you could give me a quote about the text you're finding problematic, that would be amazing, as would any suggestions on fixing it. I'm searching the script for "trauma" and "PTSD" and have so far not been able to find this. So if you can help me understand a little better what part of the script jumped out at you like this, that would be a huge help. Thanks!
It does not mention trauma or PTSD in the text, because apparently Alex is completely unaware of these concepts despite being a doctor. But that's exactly what was described with Alex's symptoms. But yes, it's Alex's internal monologue.
Got it. I'll see what I can do with that in future updates. Thanks for the feedback!
Hey there. Since I'm not 100% certain what part(s) of the story you're referencing, I workshopped this a little on Discord. Are you referring to Alex's internal thoughts the day after (eg, panic attacks, etc)? If so, I'll take another look at that but if you could let me know in particular what was troublesome to you, that will help.
bro i think that mayhew/luca its kinda similar to an argentinian actor called nicolas furtado, check his instagram @furtadonico and see what i am talking about
OMG he really does. That's amazing.
if so do i need to delete and redownloaded the game
just saw the update 10 mns ago was this a fix to something?
Not an update to the game, just an update to the Walkthrough document.
how can i get the option 'I wanted a relationship on our term,not mayhew's ' ?
Hey there. I just updated the Walkthrough document which should help answer this. Let me know if it still doesn't help.
thanks for the walkthrough but my problem still not solved. when release ronan 1st and 2nd option never unlocked whichever path i follow.
Hmm. I'll take a look at it today.
So, I've just done a playthrough from scratch and it all worked as intended. Are you getting this screen at the end of Chapter 11? If not, your relationship with Nick isn't high enough.
ok, i think i got it . thanks for the help. so i need to put an end to nick's path to get those two.
Yup. As long as you have a good relationship with Nick, this dialogue should come up in Chapter 11. The point being Nick needs to have some respect for Alex and care about his opinion. You can lose that respect if you're taking a pro-Mayhew stance or don't stand up for Seth when Ronan says he wants to take out of Alex's apartment.
mas o que é um relacionamento no termo deles ???
just saw the Ronnia comments yay to a fix, cuse i was hopeing to submit to the werewolf lad can you walk me through the sound follow good or bad choice maby a visual to go with im never sure if the vamp is happy or not with my choice
So, I've purposefully decided to keep the relationship scores hidden, although there is a walkthrough here on Itch that will take you through Chapter 11. Generally, though, I'm not trying to hide much with Mayhew (aka the vampire). If you're polite, accept what he's offering and don't resist, you'll develop a good relationship with him. If you talk back or try to provoke him, you'll piss him off. In Build 0.8, I introduced what I'm calling the "Bell Tolls" mechanic, in which you can only really piss him off so many times before he loses patience and Alex loses... something more.
looking forward to it and i also cannot acces the submit to ronan option even after choosing no werewolf sex
Hey. I think I figured out the issue and some of it was a misunderstanding of the question on my part. I just updated the Walkthrough, but you can also find an answer on Twitter and in a new post here.
Yes. To be frank, this was bad design on my part and I'm going to fix it in the next update, but to unlock it in this build you have to say you don't want to have sex with shifted werewolves. It was a dumb decision on my part; originally, the big new thing here was going to be the option to hook up with a fully shifted Ronan, but as I wrote that, I wanted something for folks who didn't want the monster-"lover" route. So, I wrote and rendered that. But, of course, there is no reason it shouldn't be available to everyone, so I'll fix that.
No worries, I'll just have to go back to the save, thanks so much for letting me know. Massive well done on the game overall, by the way!
Weird. That shouldn't be the case. I'll try testing it tomorrow.
Question: When you selected "no werewolf sex" and you got to that scene, were both options locked off? Or was it still just the "human" option that was locked off?
SPOILERS AHEAD
So, I may know what's going on and I may have misunderstood which choice you were referring to. I had a couple people on Discord test this for me and also looked over the code. I posted something on Twitter that should help clarify the choices and what's going on (link). I'd write it here on Itch but I'm not sure what the rules are here on how explicit I can be, but I'll try. Here is a summary of the options and what needs to happen for them:
In the next update, I'll unlock #1 for everyone. It was a bad coding decision on my part. I've also redone the menu/choices in the Nick/Ronan scene in Chapter 10 to clarify what the choice means.
I hope that helps clear things up!
I love all the characters but I really enjoy writing Ronan because I get to treat Alex horribly (yet still know what's going on in Ronan's head). =D
Glad you liked it!
Hi Bound by Night.
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it. I had a ton of fun making it and was so honored when Ranli invited me to.