So, I've just done a playthrough from scratch and it all worked as intended. Are you getting this screen at the end of Chapter 11? If not, your relationship with Nick isn't high enough.
"I want you..." unlocks the "I wanted Nick..." option.
"Ronan still has your heart." unlocks the "He deserved to be with Nick" option.
"Keep it as friends." unlocks the "I wanted a relationship on our terms..." option.
Yup. As long as you have a good relationship with Nick, this dialogue should come up in Chapter 11. The point being Nick needs to have some respect for Alex and care about his opinion. You can lose that respect if you're taking a pro-Mayhew stance or don't stand up for Seth when Ronan says he wants to take out of Alex's apartment.
just saw the Ronnia comments yay to a fix, cuse i was hopeing to submit to the werewolf lad can you walk me through the sound follow good or bad choice maby a visual to go with im never sure if the vamp is happy or not with my choice
So, I've purposefully decided to keep the relationship scores hidden, although there is a walkthrough here on Itch that will take you through Chapter 11. Generally, though, I'm not trying to hide much with Mayhew (aka the vampire). If you're polite, accept what he's offering and don't resist, you'll develop a good relationship with him. If you talk back or try to provoke him, you'll piss him off. In Build 0.8, I introduced what I'm calling the "Bell Tolls" mechanic, in which you can only really piss him off so many times before he loses patience and Alex loses... something more.
Hey. I think I figured out the issue and some of it was a misunderstanding of the question on my part. I just updated the Walkthrough, but you can also find an answer on Twitter and in a new post here.
Yes. To be frank, this was bad design on my part and I'm going to fix it in the next update, but to unlock it in this build you have to say you don't want to have sex with shifted werewolves. It was a dumb decision on my part; originally, the big new thing here was going to be the option to hook up with a fully shifted Ronan, but as I wrote that, I wanted something for folks who didn't want the monster-"lover" route. So, I wrote and rendered that. But, of course, there is no reason it shouldn't be available to everyone, so I'll fix that.
Question: When you selected "no werewolf sex" and you got to that scene, were both options locked off? Or was it still just the "human" option that was locked off?
So, I may know what's going on and I may have misunderstood which choice you were referring to. I had a couple people on Discord test this for me and also looked over the code. I posted something on Twitter that should help clarify the choices and what's going on (link). I'd write it here on Itch but I'm not sure what the rules are here on how explicit I can be, but I'll try. Here is a summary of the options and what needs to happen for them:
___ yourself with ______. -- This option is available only if you said you you did not want to see wolfy-bits. You had two opportunities to say "no". The first was with Connor in the coffee shop. The second was less obvious, but was with Nick and Ronan in the sewers in Chapter 10. If you did not express interest with Connor, or chose to have Nick not take a closer look at Ronan's "bits", then this should be the option you get.
Submit and ask him to _______. -- This is the monster-"lover" route in which he will shift to a full werewolf and have his way with you. This option is available only if you expressed interest with Connor AND had Nick take a look at Ronan's bits in Chapter 10.
____ him off. -- This is available for everyone.
Order him to let you ________. -- This is greyed out for everyone and is coming in the next update.
Release him. -- This is available for everyone
Leave him -- This is available for everyone.
In the next update, I'll unlock #1 for everyone. It was a bad coding decision on my part. I've also redone the menu/choices in the Nick/Ronan scene in Chapter 10 to clarify what the choice means.
I recently had the pleasure of playing the scene you made for RanliLabz. It's excellent. I hope to be able to enjoy the next chapter of your story soon.
I'd be happy to chat with you. Best way is to DM me either on Discord or Twitter. I won't be able to do a collab or assist in development but I'm happy to answer any questions and give some advice/suggestions.
damn the new character is HAWTTTTT. But i want more of Ronan lol. Cant wait for that BIG (if you know what i mean wink wink lol kidding) update in 0.9😊😊
I really liked the new chapter! Loved the new characters, and the steady reveal of more about what’s really going on. Also enjoyed seeing Luke again - he always seems to perfectly ride the line between ‘I hate him’ and ‘I wanna fuck him’ 😈
Glad you liked it this update. A bit more story focused but I tried to keep some sexy stuff in it. And always hard to balance exposition so it doesn't turn into boring monologue.
I just recently stumbled upon your VN. I play around with Daz Studio myself so I have a good idea of just how much work you have had put into this project.
Can you tell me what you are using for your character's genitals? I have yet to find any package that I've been happy with.
Thanks, and I look forward to seeing more of your work.
Thank you! It is a lot and I've been learning as I go. I'm a bit ticked at Daz & Nvidia for changing how ghostlights work (or don't) in 4.20 but managing!
I'm a little anxious about tripping some sort of censor or filter for Itch on the asset but I got it on a site called Renderotica and the asset sounds like Dictator but has a "k" in there. It starts out comically large but with some playing around you can get some nice results. I have a couple other minor criticisms but they're pretty small.
I see a lot of 3D designers mention the horrible rendering times. Obviously there's your ROI to consider, but have you considered trying a cloud services' trial? Renting an array of GPUs for $0.50~$3 an hour seems imminently cheaper than buying them.
Mine really aren't bad at all as I have a 3080. Most renders are done with 5000 iterations at about 20 minutes, and I can run them overnight while I'm sleeping. This means pretty much anything I'm able to stage during the day is able to be rendered at night. My bottleneck isn't so much time as it is VRAM. My 3080 has 10 gb of VRAM, but if the number of assets in a scene exceed that, then the entire job gets dumped to the CPU. That's my bottleneck; I have to keep the scenes under 10 gb of assets (hair and fur are the biggest issues). But that only happens rarely and I've developed a few workarounds to solve it.
Absolutely. 99% of the work is done with Daz Studio. It's free to get started and includes some basic assets to begin playing with. Some great tutorials and videos on Youtube. After that I do some cleanup of the images in Photoshop. The new images in the next release will include more post-work in Photoshop to enhance the brightness/colors/etc., but most of the work is Daz.
First off I want to express deepest sympathies and hope you are getting better. During this troubling time, it is hard to bounce back.
Recently found this VN, which from the start I absolutely fell in love with it. Whats not to love about it. Gay Men who are absolute hunks, all of them. Vampires, Werewolves and all the different ways one can interact with each of the characters. Though I have to admit, it has been a suspenseful enjoyment with the Sudden cliff hanger we were left with at Chapter 11.5 and then with the knock of the door at the end of Chapter 11. I am literally on my seat waiting for more of this.
Wow. Thank you! I love that people are still learning about BBN and having such a great reaction to it! There are a lot of GREAT adult gay VNs out there but I wanted to do something a bit different with BBN. It's not for everyone (and I've learned a lot over the course of development), but I love it when folks find it and it resonates with them. I'm working on a lot of renders this month and can't wait to get this next update out to folks.
And thank you so much for the kind wishes on my health; I'm fine now but it was a longer, lingering virus in February that just would not go away -- thankfully not Covid, but still kicked my rear and left me utterly exhausted. I'm really happy to be feeling better the last three weeks and have the energy to dive back into BBN.
It is wonderful to hear about such a possitive turn around when it comes to health...i have been personally lucky as i self issolated 3 months before covid was actually announced.it has not been easy but i knew it wad the right thing to do.
As for the progression of BBN,this is the type of stories i want to hear more about...i mean yeah, its grest the media publicizes about the hetero side if Dracula and werewolves...but what about those who are not hetero who enjoy it just the same. On top of other elements i have enjoyed theough out the novel as well...
I will admit...if VNs were out there when i was a kid, maybe i could have passed english class the first time around...hehe
Ok, so this legitimately might be my fav VN ever. There's just so many choices and almost all of them have varying consequences. The plot also is very intriguing. I for some reason seem to like games where you can make potential ally/love interest absolutely despise you with your choices. I guess it makes the game feel more real. So far the development hasn't gone far enough for me to do that yet. But with all the variety I've seen, I think I'll be able to make at least one person wanna commit war crimes whenever they see me and I can't wait to do that!
Thanks for the comment! Glad you're loving the game. As for getting LIs to despise you, Ronan certainly starts out that way, but as for getting those who begin by liking you turn to hating you... let's find out! Love the feedback.
One of the things I love about this VN (and there are a lot) is how you're not being forced down any particular romantic path. With all the hot guys sniffing around Alex (some literally) you have the chance to enjoy a good romp with any/all of them.
I'm sure there will come a time when you'll have to likely start narrowing down your interest, but until then I enjoy having the opportunity to seek out some fun, hot, intense man-loving.
Hey I know you just released a public version just wondering how often is each update I really can't wait to play more lol just a estimate if you could
My predictions about when the next release will be ready have been really poor as of late so I hesitate to say anything except as soon as I can have it ready. :-)
I discovered this game on a recommendation, I didn't think I would like this game so much, the graphics are beautiful, the plot is exciting and the characters are very captivating, seriously it's very difficult to choose a path and a character to relate to, but there's no way not liking Connor's cuteness, this character won me over, my favorite in the game. But the differential of this game is that it shows the story from the perspective of two characters, I loved that. Congratulations on the work, it's an amazing game, one of the best I've ever played.
Found and binged in 2 days LOVED NEED MORE the story is amazing the shots great i dont think iv seen anything this good sense i found bound to collage a few years ago
Wow! Thank you! Definitely more to come! I'm currently writing the next chapter which will probably be released over two or three updates and finishing up a side project. As soon as that is done, my full attention will be back on BBN. Lots of fun stuff in store!
It should function like any other Renpy based game, in which the saves are stored in a separate location. So, deleting the game itself won't delete the saves. I do this all the time with updates on VNs where I just extract the new version and play it right from the new folder.
Great question. I'm trying to figure that out. Based on 30 minutes of Google searching, looks like other devs have also been asking about this but I haven't come across an answer yet. I'll keep poking at it.
Hey there. Do you know of any other Renpy based games that can hide the UI on Android? I've been looking for two days and have not figured out how to do this.
Sorry this took so long. I'm traveling and had to download a backup of the game, pull the Walkthrough out, and then upload it. But it is now available in the files section here on Itch.Io.
Yes! Details for unlocking this are in the Walkthrough file included with the game. So far, all of the characters in the story are potential love interests.
Thank you so much for confirming this because he is easily the hottest choice in my eyes, and there's nothing worse than being teased and taunted without a guaranteed direction. :)
i think this is the best MLM focused game i've ever played so far! really well written story and interesting characters! can't wait for the next update and thank you for this great game
You don't need to be a patron to unlock the characters; everyone gets the FULL story and ALL characters. The patron-sponsored characters are those that were created with a handful of patrons who donated at a higher level but they are gradually being integrated into the story. Players/readers do not need to pay anything to unlock them. Other than early access, I will never paywall anything with BBN.
Edit/PS: The patron-sponsored characters currently integrated into the game are Connor and Seth. A third will be introduced in the next update, and the final two to come in the following updates.
I'm really loving this so far! I wasn't prepared to actually like this as much as I did but you proved me wrong with great dialogue and nice characters.. I was instantly hooked from the first chapter. Cannot wait for more! <3 This might be a stupid question but is there gonna be a choice to choose a partner later on? I happened to instantly fall for Connor, gotta love a man in a uniform and his sneaky personality.. but in the latest chapter there was no choice to just have sex with him, without Seth? I didn't wanna leave him alone with Seth because of jealousy so I chose the threesome option. This might just be unpopular opinion since I'm not into threesome if I happen to like one of the characters too much to actually share but thought I could ask. :D I simply wanted Connor to own Alex's ass and I'd let him~ But I'm loving the dynamic between Nick and Ronan too, those snarky comments and possessive behavior from Ronan are just gold. Also loving that Alex is a bottom since I prefer that myself, nice to see others smash that sweet ass.
I'm glad to have surprised you then! Honestly, I realize the game isn't everyone's cup of tea, whether it's the genre, two-character POV, whatever., but I'm glad people are trying it out to see what they think.
On partners and love interests, great question. My current plan is to avoid a traditional "primary love interest" sort of dynamic in part because the endings I have planned deal more with Alex's decisions regarding Mayhew's offer, what he discovers, and what he decides to do with the information he learns. Who winds up being by Alex's side at the end will depend on those choices. Some choices are going to simply be incompatible with some of the characters' personalities. At least, that's my plan.
On Connor/Seth/jealousy, I hope you'll forgive me but I'm actually tickled people are having this reaction. On one hand, I want people to like Seth, too, and I hope that will come along as his character is better developed and gains more depth. But, on the other, I'm glad some people are having that jealous reaction as it was very much intended for those who want to play it that way. And we'll see how that unfolds but it is very intentional and there is a direction it is heading -- one that I think will make most people happy.
Just started now up to Chapter 3 and loving it! Amazing images, hot scenes and already enjoying the characters. Looking forward to playing more, but going to pace myself so I'm not left chomping at the bit for more XD
Yay! I'm glad you're enjoying it! The chapters start to get a big longer as you go, too, with more depth coming to the characters and the story. Let me know if you have any questions or feedback when you're done!
Yes! I can't share the pics here on Itch as they have full nudity but if you look on Twitter I shared a redesign of Santino with some body hair. I'll use that model for future scenes and plan to go back and update his earlier scene.
Hi, I havent gotten too far into the game, but have really enjoyed this so far. One of the better gay games ive come across this year. Im kinda scared that the progress so far wont be as much as i hope, and ill end up finishing the game to soon.
The reason for leaving this comment was actually, for what ive readso far Alex seems to be a bottom. I definitely prefer reading w/ the mc as a top, but even if he was a switch or something that would be great. Or if hes a bottom with some characters and a top with others. The games doesnt seem to have too many choices so i kinda doubt ill be able to choose. This isnt a deal breaker for me, Ill probably still finish it, but i thought id ask anyway.
This game seems so promising so far, hope it all doesnt just end too soon.
Glad you're liking it! There are 11 chapters in the game right now (or 10.5 if you count that I'm working on a second part of Chapter 11).
I will say Alex is written primarily as a bottom BUT... A lot of folks are asking for him to top (at least once in a while), so I am working on scenes (plural) where he is going to top. One of which is planned for Chapter 12.
Thanks for trying it again and I'm so glad you liked it!
There is a walkthrough text file in the game directory that explains how to unlock that scene. I may have made it too difficult with a seemingly unrelated choice in a previous chapter.
Let me know if you have trouble finding the walkthrough file.
Is there a plan to flashback and see Ronan's creation story? I find myself wondering why he got involved with Mayhew and how he see's things from his perspective. He is scary and unbalanced, but I find myself routing for him for some reason.
Wow! Great question. I know what his backstory/creation story is but I didn't have any plans to put all of it into BBN because people seemed to have such an initial negative reaction to a second POV character, I wasn't going to do more (never was planning on it, actually, but just made me anxious about even having Nick as POV). But...
I have been thinking about trying to do a creation story for Mayhew (probably once the main story concludes), but maybe I could do something for Ronan, too. There is another VN of which I am a huge fan, and the creator for that has done mini side-games you can download separately to get those other perspectives and stories. (I'm actually glad to hear that. I don't want any of the characters to be so very clearly "This guy is good, that guy is evil.")
I was thinking the same thing. A side story not critical to the main game. I was also interested in Mayhews story. Immortality has always interested me. As far as good/evil it is complicated and a little boring. The middle gray area is where the fun is.
Are romance routes already planned between characters (are certain characters not allowed to be romanced?) for example Ronan and Nick and Alex all together at once or Ronan and Alex or Ronan and Nick?
Great question! I'm not sure how to answer that at the moment. Hmm....
I guess I'll say that in general arcs are planned, but inspiration sometimes strikes. I want to provide folks with as many options as I can without over-committing myself to different paths and scenes.
Hi. I installed this game( android version) and I think the story is great but is there anyway for me to put down the text like I can only see the image cause the text takes up almost half my screen and I can't see from legs down sometime and it kinds kills the mood hahaha
Wow! Great question. I only recently added Android support so resolving some of these issues is very new to me.
It looks like there isn't an easy way to do this, but after some research it looks like I can add a choice to the quick menu to hide the text. I also need to turn off the custom names for save games for android builds, as it sounds like that is eating up a lot of screen space for some folks and making it basically impossible to save games at all.
So, short version is, I don't think there is a way to do this presently for Android (on Windows and Mac you just hit the "H" key) but I'll try to build in this feature for the next release.
Okay. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I've added some code that should fix this by adding a "Hide" option to the quick menu at the bottom of the screen. Thanks for telling me.
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if so do i need to delete and redownloaded the game
just saw the update 10 mns ago was this a fix to something?
Not an update to the game, just an update to the Walkthrough document.
how can i get the option 'I wanted a relationship on our term,not mayhew's ' ?
Hey there. I just updated the Walkthrough document which should help answer this. Let me know if it still doesn't help.
thanks for the walkthrough but my problem still not solved. when release ronan 1st and 2nd option never unlocked whichever path i follow.
Hmm. I'll take a look at it today.
So, I've just done a playthrough from scratch and it all worked as intended. Are you getting this screen at the end of Chapter 11? If not, your relationship with Nick isn't high enough.
ok, i think i got it . thanks for the help. so i need to put an end to nick's path to get those two.
Yup. As long as you have a good relationship with Nick, this dialogue should come up in Chapter 11. The point being Nick needs to have some respect for Alex and care about his opinion. You can lose that respect if you're taking a pro-Mayhew stance or don't stand up for Seth when Ronan says he wants to take out of Alex's apartment.
mas o que é um relacionamento no termo deles ???
just saw the Ronnia comments yay to a fix, cuse i was hopeing to submit to the werewolf lad can you walk me through the sound follow good or bad choice maby a visual to go with im never sure if the vamp is happy or not with my choice
So, I've purposefully decided to keep the relationship scores hidden, although there is a walkthrough here on Itch that will take you through Chapter 11. Generally, though, I'm not trying to hide much with Mayhew (aka the vampire). If you're polite, accept what he's offering and don't resist, you'll develop a good relationship with him. If you talk back or try to provoke him, you'll piss him off. In Build 0.8, I introduced what I'm calling the "Bell Tolls" mechanic, in which you can only really piss him off so many times before he loses patience and Alex loses... something more.
looking forward to it and i also cannot acces the submit to ronan option even after choosing no werewolf sex
Hey. I think I figured out the issue and some of it was a misunderstanding of the question on my part. I just updated the Walkthrough, but you can also find an answer on Twitter and in a new post here.
Yes. To be frank, this was bad design on my part and I'm going to fix it in the next update, but to unlock it in this build you have to say you don't want to have sex with shifted werewolves. It was a dumb decision on my part; originally, the big new thing here was going to be the option to hook up with a fully shifted Ronan, but as I wrote that, I wanted something for folks who didn't want the monster-"lover" route. So, I wrote and rendered that. But, of course, there is no reason it shouldn't be available to everyone, so I'll fix that.
No worries, I'll just have to go back to the save, thanks so much for letting me know. Massive well done on the game overall, by the way!
Weird. That shouldn't be the case. I'll try testing it tomorrow.
Question: When you selected "no werewolf sex" and you got to that scene, were both options locked off? Or was it still just the "human" option that was locked off?
SPOILERS AHEAD
So, I may know what's going on and I may have misunderstood which choice you were referring to. I had a couple people on Discord test this for me and also looked over the code. I posted something on Twitter that should help clarify the choices and what's going on (link). I'd write it here on Itch but I'm not sure what the rules are here on how explicit I can be, but I'll try. Here is a summary of the options and what needs to happen for them:
In the next update, I'll unlock #1 for everyone. It was a bad coding decision on my part. I've also redone the menu/choices in the Nick/Ronan scene in Chapter 10 to clarify what the choice means.
I hope that helps clear things up!
I love all the characters but I really enjoy writing Ronan because I get to treat Alex horribly (yet still know what's going on in Ronan's head). =D
Glad you liked it!
Hi Bound by Night.
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it. I had a ton of fun making it and was so honored when Ranli invited me to.
Hello Bound by Night, I admire your work a lot. I want to start developing a game like that too and your pictures are amazing.
Can you give me a way to contact you so I can ask you some questions while I develop mine?
Would you be interested in a cooperation with me?
I'd be happy to chat with you. Best way is to DM me either on Discord or Twitter. I won't be able to do a collab or assist in development but I'm happy to answer any questions and give some advice/suggestions.
Can you tell me the tools you have used to create your game?
Especially the images, what advice would you give me to achieve my character appearance to look like yours?
Can you tell me what tools and programs have you used so far for your novel? especially the characters body features?
damn the new character is HAWTTTTT. But i want more of Ronan lol. Cant wait for that BIG (if you know what i mean wink wink lol kidding) update in 0.9😊😊
Hearing a lot of Ronan-love lately! ❤️ He's definitely returning soon, clothing optional. 😉😂
Well he is hot as hell and thats good especially the last part winkwink lol. Cant wait ❤
I really liked the new chapter! Loved the new characters, and the steady reveal of more about what’s really going on. Also enjoyed seeing Luke again - he always seems to perfectly ride the line between ‘I hate him’ and ‘I wanna fuck him’ 😈
Perfect!
Glad you liked it this update. A bit more story focused but I tried to keep some sexy stuff in it. And always hard to balance exposition so it doesn't turn into boring monologue.
I just recently stumbled upon your VN. I play around with Daz Studio myself so I have a good idea of just how much work you have had put into this project.
Can you tell me what you are using for your character's genitals? I have yet to find any package that I've been happy with.
Thanks, and I look forward to seeing more of your work.
Thank you! It is a lot and I've been learning as I go. I'm a bit ticked at Daz & Nvidia for changing how ghostlights work (or don't) in 4.20 but managing!
I'm a little anxious about tripping some sort of censor or filter for Itch on the asset but I got it on a site called Renderotica and the asset sounds like Dictator but has a "k" in there. It starts out comically large but with some playing around you can get some nice results. I have a couple other minor criticisms but they're pretty small.
Emthese are going to be the most awaited 30 days of my life😅
I see a lot of 3D designers mention the horrible rendering times. Obviously there's your ROI to consider, but have you considered trying a cloud services' trial? Renting an array of GPUs for $0.50~$3 an hour seems imminently cheaper than buying them.
Mine really aren't bad at all as I have a 3080. Most renders are done with 5000 iterations at about 20 minutes, and I can run them overnight while I'm sleeping. This means pretty much anything I'm able to stage during the day is able to be rendered at night. My bottleneck isn't so much time as it is VRAM. My 3080 has 10 gb of VRAM, but if the number of assets in a scene exceed that, then the entire job gets dumped to the CPU. That's my bottleneck; I have to keep the scenes under 10 gb of assets (hair and fur are the biggest issues). But that only happens rarely and I've developed a few workarounds to solve it.
Hey, I love the game and the guys are hot
May I ask what software do you use to create them ?
Absolutely. 99% of the work is done with Daz Studio. It's free to get started and includes some basic assets to begin playing with. Some great tutorials and videos on Youtube. After that I do some cleanup of the images in Photoshop. The new images in the next release will include more post-work in Photoshop to enhance the brightness/colors/etc., but most of the work is Daz.
Thanks for the reply. It's been a while since I wanted to try to create a game, I didn't know how do to it tho.
Can't wait for the next update ;)
More Santino updates PLEASE (I just found this VN and it's so good!) Keep up the good work 🤩
Yay! I love that the "daddy" is getting some love! So glad you found BBN and are enjoying it!
First off I want to express deepest sympathies and hope you are getting better. During this troubling time, it is hard to bounce back.
Recently found this VN, which from the start I absolutely fell in love with it. Whats not to love about it. Gay Men who are absolute hunks, all of them. Vampires, Werewolves and all the different ways one can interact with each of the characters. Though I have to admit, it has been a suspenseful enjoyment with the Sudden cliff hanger we were left with at Chapter 11.5 and then with the knock of the door at the end of Chapter 11. I am literally on my seat waiting for more of this.
Wow. Thank you! I love that people are still learning about BBN and having such a great reaction to it! There are a lot of GREAT adult gay VNs out there but I wanted to do something a bit different with BBN. It's not for everyone (and I've learned a lot over the course of development), but I love it when folks find it and it resonates with them. I'm working on a lot of renders this month and can't wait to get this next update out to folks.
And thank you so much for the kind wishes on my health; I'm fine now but it was a longer, lingering virus in February that just would not go away -- thankfully not Covid, but still kicked my rear and left me utterly exhausted. I'm really happy to be feeling better the last three weeks and have the energy to dive back into BBN.
It is wonderful to hear about such a possitive turn around when it comes to health...i have been personally lucky as i self issolated 3 months before covid was actually announced.it has not been easy but i knew it wad the right thing to do.
As for the progression of BBN,this is the type of stories i want to hear more about...i mean yeah, its grest the media publicizes about the hetero side if Dracula and werewolves...but what about those who are not hetero who enjoy it just the same. On top of other elements i have enjoyed theough out the novel as well...
I will admit...if VNs were out there when i was a kid, maybe i could have passed english class the first time around...hehe
Ok, so this legitimately might be my fav VN ever. There's just so many choices and almost all of them have varying consequences. The plot also is very intriguing. I for some reason seem to like games where you can make potential ally/love interest absolutely despise you with your choices. I guess it makes the game feel more real. So far the development hasn't gone far enough for me to do that yet. But with all the variety I've seen, I think I'll be able to make at least one person wanna commit war crimes whenever they see me and I can't wait to do that!
Thanks for the comment! Glad you're loving the game. As for getting LIs to despise you, Ronan certainly starts out that way, but as for getting those who begin by liking you turn to hating you... let's find out! Love the feedback.
*is waiting patiently for next update we can fuc- I MEAN see! see who's behind the door*
Ha! Thanks. Hopefully soon. I've been sick most of February so going a bit slow at the moment.
hope you get better and don't you dare push yourself
One of the things I love about this VN (and there are a lot) is how you're not being forced down any particular romantic path. With all the hot guys sniffing around Alex (some literally) you have the chance to enjoy a good romp with any/all of them.
I'm sure there will come a time when you'll have to likely start narrowing down your interest, but until then I enjoy having the opportunity to seek out some fun, hot, intense man-loving.
Nick and Ronan's relationship is adorable. But I am curious about will there be Ronan and MC's romance?
That will definitely be an option.
Hey I know you just released a public version just wondering how often is each update I really can't wait to play more lol just a estimate if you could
My predictions about when the next release will be ready have been really poor as of late so I hesitate to say anything except as soon as I can have it ready. :-)
I discovered this game on a recommendation, I didn't think I would like this game so much, the graphics are beautiful, the plot is exciting and the characters are very captivating, seriously it's very difficult to choose a path and a character to relate to, but there's no way not liking Connor's cuteness, this character won me over, my favorite in the game. But the differential of this game is that it shows the story from the perspective of two characters, I loved that. Congratulations on the work, it's an amazing game, one of the best I've ever played.
Thanks for giving it a try and so glad it surprised you! ❤️
Found and binged in 2 days LOVED NEED MORE the story is amazing the shots great i dont think iv seen anything this good sense i found bound to collage a few years ago
Wow! Thank you! Definitely more to come! I'm currently writing the next chapter which will probably be released over two or three updates and finishing up a side project. As soon as that is done, my full attention will be back on BBN. Lots of fun stuff in store!
question do i have to delete and redownloaded the game for any updates or will my saves automatically keep going with the story?
It should function like any other Renpy based game, in which the saves are stored in a separate location. So, deleting the game itself won't delete the saves. I do this all the time with updates on VNs where I just extract the new version and play it right from the new folder.
Where is the menu that hides the script? (pc)
I saw it on my mobile
Great question. I'm trying to figure that out. Based on 30 minutes of Google searching, looks like other devs have also been asking about this but I haven't come across an answer yet. I'll keep poking at it.
Hey there. Do you know of any other Renpy based games that can hide the UI on Android? I've been looking for two days and have not figured out how to do this.
Will there be another update?The plot is so intriguing!
Yup! Latest update is currently in early access for patrons but will be available here on Itch around January 23rd (give or take a day).
I miscalculated. Today is 30 days after Early Release, so it's out today! Happy early birthday! :D
Hi there. Where to find walkthrough on android version?
That is a great question! I think I'm going to have to make it available as a separate download. I'll try to do that later today.
Thank you sooo much 😊
Sorry this took so long. I'm traveling and had to download a backup of the game, pull the Walkthrough out, and then upload it. But it is now available in the files section here on Itch.Io.
It's ok 😊 thank you so much! 😊
good morning does anyone know how to be with cop nick?
Hey there! There is a walkthrough file in the main game directory that will tell you how to unlock that scene.
can you have sex with your boss?
Yes! Details for unlocking this are in the Walkthrough file included with the game. So far, all of the characters in the story are potential love interests.
Thank you so much for confirming this because he is easily the hottest choice in my eyes, and there's nothing worse than being teased and taunted without a guaranteed direction. :)
i think this is the best MLM focused game i've ever played so far! really well written story and interesting characters! can't wait for the next update and thank you for this great game
Oh wow. Thank you! That means a lot. I'm working hard to get the next update finished before the holidays. I know it's been awhile.
Hey, this game was awesome! congrats!!
Thank you! More to come soon!
What patreon tier do you have to be to unlock the extra characters?
You don't need to be a patron to unlock the characters; everyone gets the FULL story and ALL characters. The patron-sponsored characters are those that were created with a handful of patrons who donated at a higher level but they are gradually being integrated into the story. Players/readers do not need to pay anything to unlock them. Other than early access, I will never paywall anything with BBN.
Edit/PS: The patron-sponsored characters currently integrated into the game are Connor and Seth. A third will be introduced in the next update, and the final two to come in the following updates.
I'm really loving this so far! I wasn't prepared to actually like this as much as I did but you proved me wrong with great dialogue and nice characters.. I was instantly hooked from the first chapter. Cannot wait for more! <3
This might be a stupid question but is there gonna be a choice to choose a partner later on? I happened to instantly fall for Connor, gotta love a man in a uniform and his sneaky personality.. but in the latest chapter there was no choice to just have sex with him, without Seth? I didn't wanna leave him alone with Seth because of jealousy so I chose the threesome option. This might just be unpopular opinion since I'm not into threesome if I happen to like one of the characters too much to actually share but thought I could ask. :D I simply wanted Connor to own Alex's ass and I'd let him~
But I'm loving the dynamic between Nick and Ronan too, those snarky comments and possessive behavior from Ronan are just gold. Also loving that Alex is a bottom since I prefer that myself, nice to see others smash that sweet ass.
I'm glad to have surprised you then! Honestly, I realize the game isn't everyone's cup of tea, whether it's the genre, two-character POV, whatever., but I'm glad people are trying it out to see what they think.
On partners and love interests, great question. My current plan is to avoid a traditional "primary love interest" sort of dynamic in part because the endings I have planned deal more with Alex's decisions regarding Mayhew's offer, what he discovers, and what he decides to do with the information he learns. Who winds up being by Alex's side at the end will depend on those choices. Some choices are going to simply be incompatible with some of the characters' personalities. At least, that's my plan.
On Connor/Seth/jealousy, I hope you'll forgive me but I'm actually tickled people are having this reaction. On one hand, I want people to like Seth, too, and I hope that will come along as his character is better developed and gains more depth. But, on the other, I'm glad some people are having that jealous reaction as it was very much intended for those who want to play it that way. And we'll see how that unfolds but it is very intentional and there is a direction it is heading -- one that I think will make most people happy.
Just started now up to Chapter 3 and loving it! Amazing images, hot scenes and already enjoying the characters. Looking forward to playing more, but going to pace myself so I'm not left chomping at the bit for more XD
Yay! I'm glad you're enjoying it! The chapters start to get a big longer as you go, too, with more depth coming to the characters and the story. Let me know if you have any questions or feedback when you're done!
Just got to the end of Chapter 11, and damn this is one helluva hot game!!!!!!
Just wondering if you were going to be including any hairy men in later chapters?
Yes! I can't share the pics here on Itch as they have full nudity but if you look on Twitter I shared a redesign of Santino with some body hair. I'll use that model for future scenes and plan to go back and update his earlier scene.
So glad you liked it!
To Twitter I must go! XD
Hi, I havent gotten too far into the game, but have really enjoyed this so far. One of the better gay games ive come across this year. Im kinda scared that the progress so far wont be as much as i hope, and ill end up finishing the game to soon.
The reason for leaving this comment was actually, for what ive readso far Alex seems to be a bottom. I definitely prefer reading w/ the mc as a top, but even if he was a switch or something that would be great. Or if hes a bottom with some characters and a top with others. The games doesnt seem to have too many choices so i kinda doubt ill be able to choose. This isnt a deal breaker for me, Ill probably still finish it, but i thought id ask anyway.
This game seems so promising so far, hope it all doesnt just end too soon.
Glad you're liking it! There are 11 chapters in the game right now (or 10.5 if you count that I'm working on a second part of Chapter 11).
I will say Alex is written primarily as a bottom BUT... A lot of folks are asking for him to top (at least once in a while), so I am working on scenes (plural) where he is going to top. One of which is planned for Chapter 12.
Yey, Connor scene! And a threesome no less.... Oh my~
Wow, this is so much bigger and more cohesive than when I played it before the summer. Great job !! Can't wait for next update.
I have a question... What options do I use to get the 'mature' result of Chapter 6? I feel I tried all combinations!
Thanks for trying it again and I'm so glad you liked it!
There is a walkthrough text file in the game directory that explains how to unlock that scene. I may have made it too difficult with a seemingly unrelated choice in a previous chapter.
Let me know if you have trouble finding the walkthrough file.
Thanks a million!
I should have found that txt file myself tbh
Love the update. 3 way was well done. I am loving the story and looking forward to more.
Thanks!!! Writing the next update is well underway.
Is there a plan to flashback and see Ronan's creation story? I find myself wondering why he got involved with Mayhew and how he see's things from his perspective. He is scary and unbalanced, but I find myself routing for him for some reason.
Wow! Great question. I know what his backstory/creation story is but I didn't have any plans to put all of it into BBN because people seemed to have such an initial negative reaction to a second POV character, I wasn't going to do more (never was planning on it, actually, but just made me anxious about even having Nick as POV). But...
I have been thinking about trying to do a creation story for Mayhew (probably once the main story concludes), but maybe I could do something for Ronan, too. There is another VN of which I am a huge fan, and the creator for that has done mini side-games you can download separately to get those other perspectives and stories. (I'm actually glad to hear that. I don't want any of the characters to be so very clearly "This guy is good, that guy is evil.")
I was thinking the same thing. A side story not critical to the main game. I was also interested in Mayhews story. Immortality has always interested me. As far as good/evil it is complicated and a little boring. The middle gray area is where the fun is.
Are romance routes already planned between characters (are certain characters not allowed to be romanced?) for example Ronan and Nick and Alex all together at once or Ronan and Alex or Ronan and Nick?
Great question! I'm not sure how to answer that at the moment. Hmm....
I guess I'll say that in general arcs are planned, but inspiration sometimes strikes. I want to provide folks with as many options as I can without over-committing myself to different paths and scenes.
It's a great game！Thank you so much for your effort !
Thank you! Next update with Chapter 11 will be out in just a couple weeks and I'm working on the next update as well.
Hi. I installed this game( android version) and I think the story is great but is there anyway for me to put down the text like I can only see the image cause the text takes up almost half my screen and I can't see from legs down sometime and it kinds kills the mood hahaha
Wow! Great question. I only recently added Android support so resolving some of these issues is very new to me.
It looks like there isn't an easy way to do this, but after some research it looks like I can add a choice to the quick menu to hide the text. I also need to turn off the custom names for save games for android builds, as it sounds like that is eating up a lot of screen space for some folks and making it basically impossible to save games at all.
So, short version is, I don't think there is a way to do this presently for Android (on Windows and Mac you just hit the "H" key) but I'll try to build in this feature for the next release.
Okay. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I've added some code that should fix this by adding a "Hide" option to the quick menu at the bottom of the screen. Thanks for telling me.
Hii. Thank you for the fast respose, but i cant see the hide option at the bottom of the screen.
oh yeah, it's not there now. I'm going to have to include it in the next build.
OHHH okayokay I misunderstood it. THANK YOU